I’m a veteran. I spent eight years in the US Navy and I’m damn proud of that. I spent eight years of my life defending the rights of US citizens to do what they want and be free. One of the freedoms I helped protect is the freedom of speech. I fully understand that, and respect everyone’s right to their opinion. For example, I happily sacrificed eight years for you to burn the American flag as a protest. I have no problem with you burning Old Glory (with that said, you do it on my property, expect an ass-whoopin’). Feel free to express your opinions about the current President or Congress, the wars we are fighting, or whatever is on your mind.
Say whatever is on your mind, but be careful: you just might think that your BELIEFS are FACTS. When you come into an argument or debate with that sort of mindset, you WILL get owned.
Case in point….
I had no idea when I left the military in 1999 that social media, i.e, Facebook, Twitter, etc., would become such a prominent aspect of society. I also had no idea that social media would advertise how fucking stupid most of humanity has become.
I am part of a group on Facebook for former US Navy members that were CTs (Cryptologic Technicians). There are a lot of old shipmates that I would like to find, so I’ve been subscribing to it. A couple of days ago, someone started a new thread, and at the time of this writing, there are 30+ posts, with the following:
what a confused world we live in! Thank god to the end of 2011, I only hope 2012 is better!!
It only took two comments for it to get political.
Robert Berry You mean o’bumer getting impeached, Robert? That will make it better! Oops, he may not be a legal president; so, that can’t happen. Only a real president can get impeached, right?
Four more posts of the political hatred, and then this little gem:
Donald H. White Impeach the President? On what? Because you don’t like him? That sounds rational.
Having just scrapped together and spent $10K of my money for cataract surgeries and having NO insurance because (a) it’s not affordable and (b) I couldn’t use it for up to 12 months if I did buy a policy…I have to respectfully disagree. Before the so-called “Obamacare,” there was nothing.
Two more posts down, we get Kristen. She says:
Kristen McFarland Don’t like him Donald?…can I ask a question…why are you introducing politics into this? I didn’t think this site was supposed to have a political flavor to it.. You brought it up…why??? To shut everyone down? So no one could dispute your personal observation?…we all know we’re not supposed to bring this up here..why did you??? No one and I repeat no one likes Obama…and probably not even you..I served under Jimmy Carter..you wanna talk about embarrassing? Obama is a thousand times worse than Carter could have ever dreamt of of being…and I have to sympathize with anyone who serves in our military at this time in our history…because he hates our military without question…unlike Carter who abided it because he’d been in it for a number of years…do you realize what Obama’s doing to our health care? Healthcare we were guaranteed would ours for the remainder of our lives if we served for twenty years…well, honey, stays forever and Obama’s thinking of ways not only not to give us a cost of living allowance (COLA) and he hasn’t for three years now, but also how not to pay us our pensions…how does that grab ya??? And not to be outdone, he’s dreaming up ways to deny Medicare to our seniors…I’ll be there in fairly short order…but I ain’t going down without a fight, let me tell ya…k
A few posts later, I finally chime in with:
Dan Gilmore Kristen McFarland – I see 5 comments of political nature before Donald H. White commented. Also, there are people who like Obama, so your rash generalizations fall flat.
Apparently Kristen felt a bit froggy that day. I’m really happy she did. She showed her stupidity with grandeur.
Kristen McFarland My generalizations?; newsflash Dan G. if you have ever been in the military, and I could tend to doubt that, from the comment you not only didn’t like Carter you definitely don’t like Obama…when you make sweeping generalizations about my comments, you’re the one who falls flat on your own face…Obama has no liking for anything military, including those who are in the military now or were ever in the military…and if you collect a retirement, you’d know that for a fact…don’t make idiotic comments yourself, if you don’t actually have something factual to back it up with..I don’t suffer fools gladly and I don’t especially care about someone who makes themselves look even stupider than you just did…k
For the record, I immediately “liked” her comment. Here’s why:
Dan Gilmore Kristen – You make me laugh. I simply pointed out that there were five comments of political nature, yet you singled out Donald. You are simply wrong when you state that “No one and I repeat no one likes Obama”. You have no facts to base that on.
You then decided to personally attack me. Ok, that’s fine. I served in the US Navy in order to defend your right to speak your mind. Here is my response:
YOU made a sweeping generalization, and when called on it, you decided to childishly attack me.
YOU asked me for facts, yet you have yet to provide any of your own.
YOU doubt that I was in the military, but ask yourself this: Why would I be in a US Navy Cryptologic Tech group? Oh, I served 8 years and was honorably discharged as a CTO2. I guess since I didn’t retire I am not worthy?
YOU said I made “idiotic comments”. Please elaborate and explain how anything I said is idiotic. No, really, I’ll wait.
How DARE you think you are in some position to judge anyone else when you have about a fifth grade level grasp of grammar.
I liked your previous response because it shows the rest of this group how ignorant you truly are. For the record, I have yet to post anything about my likes/dislikes of the current POTUS, or any other POTUS, or government official.
In conclusion, and with all due respect, you don’t know a damned thing about me so do us all a favor and kindly shut, and grow, the fuck up.
I posted that at 10:38am yesterday, and received four “likes” on the comment. She has not returned to the group.
I don’t know this Kristen person. I don’t care to. My whole point in this is that you better have your shit together before making yourself look like a complete asshole…in front of your shipmates. If you want to speak about stuff that you believe in, you should realize that your beliefs are NOT facts. They are opinions.
Oh, and learn how to debate.
The full thread can be read here, an open group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/38517957251/10150471198262252/
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